"Never dispute the ancient evidence of history and where documented facts and figures including events ,names and timing and evolution of such pattern of history exist so to say checkered antecedence with such intimidating pedigrees of empirical knowledge of prior existence it would be so naive to discredit the proven facts of timeline intergrity."
"I rest my case"
"Indisputable especially coming from the long history of the British people the most recorded specie of human race you cannot help but believe them ."
"Did you subscribe to the fantasy of Merlin and Vivien in love?"
"Uhmmmmm not many stories have survived the wears and tears of time . Could be the diversion of Merlin's interest from the king's court that was responsible for the demise of the king Arthur?"
I think so I hope so"
"Like seriously?Did anyone ever report that?"
I hardly know Maybe you can find them"
"Definitely he was in love with Vivien who derailed him from the king's court."
The French vulgate text subscribe to the fact she is a student of Merlin as well as the lover of her master and both fallen in love."
"She fell in love with the son of the devil"
"I think love is a spiritual force and both souls and spirits of the lovers are captured by the god of love.Now to preserve the spirit of intimacy might have to derail into fantasyland of private closet for the full satisfaction and preserve their state of happiness.To posit that the entrapment of Merlin in the beautiful tower not aberation afterall.He teaches her everything he knows and takes the shape of a youth in the forest of briosque when he first sets eyes on Vivian.She also learns the magical spells of how to bind another in the tower and later uses it against Merlin.He uses the spell to imprison Merlin in the tower when he sleeps and when he wakes up she promises him love visits regularly and keep her promises ."
"I barely believe you.Sincerely speaking the post vulgate version present the cruelest version that she is not in love with Merlin and traps him to the weakness of love.Such kind of prejudice in the sense of helplessness is embalmed in the nature of Arthurian texts bewildered from the sanctity of your prejudice but to the axiom that women in the Arthurian times are wonderful instruments for the downfall of greatest men and powerful kingdoms."
"Have you read the Morte D'Arthur a Mallory's version it has entirely different viewpoint?"
"Yarn"
"When it talks of Nenyve a pure and innocent girl who is not emotionally attached to Merlin but Merlin cannot stop thinking about her and plotted to take her virginity.It also reflects his ineptness in matters of love and society to prove himself as an outsider in the court.Marlory demonstrates the need that that king's court could survive after all without his involvement considering a helpless soul already entrapped in the mystic sorcery of love.After she seals Merlin off she goes on to prove it without the aid of necromancy,magic, shape shifting and prophecy Arthur can survive quite not demeaning the fact she is benevolent and pure in spirit saving the king Arthur from Accolon."
"Does the text edifice sustains that momentum with subsequent latency?"
"Uhmmmmm"
"Do you dissemble your tradition of bespoke art in the middle of accomplishment? Practically nope otherwise imminent defeat is not immune from erstwhile insulated victorious routines.The gods says so and mortals too do not deny it with proven logic."
" As the chief lady of lake?
Does Malory mentioned her?"
"Of course in separate context aside Merlin's imprisonment to make a strong property of Arthurian legend (Holbrook 776-77)."
"I think you have not read the cruelest version yet"
"Like seriously "
"Alfred Tennyson 's "Merlin and Vivien 's idyll.It paints a masculine continuum of Merlin's blinding love for Vivien but it here invokes feminist powers.Vivien seduces Merlin "
"Feministic narcissism "
"Yeah,seduces Merlin to love her and the idylls use a lot of imagery throughout to cite samples of bestiality particularly evident in Vivien's character occuring outside the court ."
"In that text she is associated with rats, serpents,rats and spiders "
"Oh my goodness you re a good reader too just pulling my legs in suspense.A sort of inherent forces outside the court that Arthur is trying to defeat.Then she lures him into her trap and does nothing to redeem her character from the court ."
"Some critics call that betrayal of love."
"In Tennyson 's Scheme of the true and false it paints her as false in the presence of the blameless British king."
"Listen to the poem"
'if I come not
The lady Vivian will remember me
And say'i knew him when his heart was young,
Though I have lost him now
Time called him home
And that was as it was:for much is lost
Between Broceliande and Camelot'
Who says that"
"Oh you read that too.Merlin says that, but the poem "Merlin "is credited to Edwin Arlington Robinson in early twentieth century.Although it denies the context of necromancy magic and entrapment that focuses on more realistic portraiture in a true mordernist form but is quite a legend in which Merlin and Vivien are lovers.Even those she looses her love she remains an independent woman not bothered by betrayal or entrapment whatsoever. "
"These are popular genres in great Britain where thousands if not millions of books have been written probably on the subject to make Merlin highly celebrated figure in the twentieth century."
"We were right about our earlier submission to note the Merlin derailment from the king's court was responsible catalyst for the overthrow of the king Arthur.In the same poem Merlin published by MacMillan in 1917 says the two together stays away from the king's court for a decade and when Merlin arrives at Broceliande he is aware of this inevitable fact of magical imprisonment and intimate privacy of forlorn lovers.Vivian transforms him from celebrity magician into private lover cut his beard and eliminate drab robes.Then the rumour reaches him about the downfall of king Arthur he begins to feel remorse of age ,mortality and guilt and resumes his thoughts and regain old habits.Vivian isn't happy about the decision but she never forgive him and when he returns back, Vivien is forever gone."
" I love the 1953 Richard Wilbur's piece "Merlin Enthralled".Also in mordern Arthurian literature an anthology of the English and American Arthuriana from the Renaissance to the present,edited by Alan Lupack of the Garland publishing inc.in New York 1992,In the poem king Arthur and his men are lamenting the absence of Merlin and couldn't ascertain the extent or reason for his disappearance as explained in other versions.But there're are rumors Ninianne the Siren's daughter has enslaved him and enchanted him . Legends say she came to him in a dream and forced him to sleep and later overpowered him with sleeping spell so that he forgets about the king's court and the king's men who were searching for him.With the spell he forgets the outside world in the mist of time"
"Hmmmmm!Quite different from the 1955 version of Thomas Gunn."
"If I may enquire of this knowledge too and the power of prejudice it entails.How rational is it?"
"In this book,"Merlin in the Cave:He speculates without a book",paints an image of Merlin in the prison of Vivian.Meelin later recalls how he thinks he is more powerful and above the wiles of women's folks and this belief shapes his downfall.It begins by appealing to be loved by a woman and it seals the downfall and beginning of his problem.
Let me go back in time a little as 1935,Vivian Smallwood King,says in the' Merlin to Vivien ', Merlin is infatuated by Vivien and desires to be kissed and promises to teach her magic in exchange for love her beauty and the words of love."
"The source please"
"See contemporary American Women Poets edited by Toni Gordoo in New York 1936,Henry Harrison,page 269."
"We couldn't examine post vulgate version"
"It says Ninianne is a fifteen years old virgin and Merlin seeks to her love though she is afraid of Merlin's intention and negs her to teach her necromancy.Merlin is in love and would never do anything to grieve her though earnestly seeks to divirgin her. Ninianne makes love promises in exchange for teaching and training in magic and he quickly agrees to here request.Then when they re ready to leave the king's court they move away into love towers forever.He moves to the lake Dianna and she instructs him to build her house on the lake.It later earns her the moniker "lady of the lake".There she decides to start life."
"Tell the biggest secret between them?"
"Still necromancy.One day Merlin tells Vivian Morgan Le Fay stole escalibur from the king putting kingdom in great havoc.So they return to Britain and he teaches her almost everything he knows much as good as himself.Then she goes angry against constant tension of Merlin in knowing her carnally looking for ways to get rid of him.When they get to the ominous forest finally gets the chance to get rid of him showing the tomb of two lovers.Then she informs her servants to make bed for them in the tomb and when they lay asleep she wakes up to invoke spells on him in deep sleep .She enchants that he no longer able to move and then throw the wizard face into the lovers tombs and by using magical spells lock and seal up the tomb that cannot be unseal by anyone except herself for the rest of time.Then she goes onto the battle between Accalon and Arthur and seeing the trouble Arthur faces uses enthantment to make Excalibur falls and Arthur grabs it to win the battle."
"This is interesting.Consider that with the 1470 Thomas Marlory version Works edited by Eugene Vinaver at Oxford university 1971,page 76-77,87"
"Forget that pls let's move on.Have you read this version by Arnold Mathew ?"
"Oh that 1852 version Tristam and Iseult"
"Oh my gosh you re bomb so good."
"I love that version"In Empedocles on Etna and other poem.A.London:B Fellowes,1852."
"The story is in the final section.The story teller is Tristram's wife ,Iseult of the white hands."
"Exactly.She tells the story of Merlin and Vivien to her kids.Both cases of unwanted lovers trying to break free from the pressure of their lovers which bestows them a golden place of comfort and beauty.She tells the story of how Vivian grows weary of Merlin's love try to break free from the bondage of his demand and pressure.She finally closes the tomb against Merlin who she placed under eternal spell until judgement day.The profound plot of spells allows Vivian to go wherever she pleases.
Robert Buchanan in the 1859 version in enclosed in the book Merlin's tomb.In the fragment of table round . Glasgow: Thomas Murray and Son.1859,pp.65-72."
"Both are lovers too."
"Yeah.She knows all of Merlin's spells except for one and this spell would enable her imprison her lover in a lifelong bliss in a bower.They re matured lovers fully acknowledged the nemesis of their actions that may perhaps sometimes not have remedy.He is so weak he cannot refuse her request not enthusiastic about being imprisoned and Vivien is transparent about her request.One day they finally met in the beautiful woods and Merlin fall asleep on Vivian's lap.Then she invokes the new acquired skill of magical spells with her wimple traces a circle around the tree where Merlin is sleeping.She then invokes magic ring nine times with the spells.When he wakes he realised he is being imprisoned in a powerful castle that is inescapable and terrifying.She returns often times to take her sweet solace."
"William Butler Yeats 's Time and the witch Vivien."This focuses on the entrapment of Merlin and Vivien's downfall".Here we see the first time Vivien met her down fall where she fails to win the game of chess with time.The scene takes place after Vivien has enslaved Merlin captivated in a pool of water to reflect how beautiful she is .Later she meets a greater one Time dressed like an old peddler ,scythe and black bag with him and they enter into a short banter.Vivien confident of her wits recognizes time and told him to sit with her.Time refuses who doesn't slow down neither ever sit nor rest.Then she asks what is in his bag and relies,'Gray hairs and clutches, mansions of memories and mellow thoughts",she detested her bullshit and interested in purchasing time's hourglass .As time refuses the golden request she ventures to tip the glass on its side.He refuses and righting the gas again"
"What does time says?"
"He says he always get the last laugh."
"Does time stop nagging?"
"She boasted of having been able to overcome Merlin with her wiles and time much older and white than merlin.They enter into another form of negotiation when she proffer to play a game of chance and time agrees and produce a loaded dice.She asks for another game and launched a complaint against time.In this game of chess time finally wins and Vivien looses her shallom."
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